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1  General Forum / General chat. / PLZ- HLP on: August 30, 2007, 01:47:12 AM
Quote from: "XYLEM"
Quote from: "Mike"
Quote from: "XYLEM"
Quote from: "Mike"
Quote from: "XYLEM"
Please, this kind of questions post in the General section not in Support questions (Free plan).

The topic was moved to the General chat.


I think this was in the support forum (free plan) because the user is having a problem using FTP. The only reason why it's linking to images on another host is because of hotlinking being disabled on 50webs free plan.

For easy transfer of website files, try FileZilla [free FTP client].


What is the problem with the FTP service in this topic ?


I dunno - I'm guessing that the user possibly doesn't know how to upload files via FTP. But there are video tutorials on the 50Webs site still right?


If the user have problem with the FTP must open topic with FTP problem in the Support questions (Free plan).
My comment is still valid, this topic is for General section.


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<Sigh>  :roll:

OK.... <ahem> at the risk of seeming overly wordy....

I thought the images I made would help to clarify the problem.   :?  I tried before to explain w/o images, but that proved to confuse some persons even more...

The thing is this:  I accidentally created two folders by the same name.  One is what should be my main Photos folder.  However, at present it contains another Photos subfolder.  That subfolder now holds almost all my images for the site.  There is only 1 image positioned where it ought to be, in the main Photos folder. The rest are 'trapped' w/i that subfolder.  What I need is to get all of those images (almost 500) OUT of the subfolder and just place them all in the main folder.  Then I could either get rid of the emptied subfolder or give it a new name, to be used for something else.

FTP won't allow me to do this. Or, I can't figure out how to get it to allow this.  Yes, I do know how to use FTP now, but the one I'm using has limitations.  Methinks I need to find another, maybe FileZilla as one of you suggests.

I think on the actual webspace, I COULD (theoretically) just copy all of the photos in that subfolder and then 'find' the main folder and move them all into that.  There is a dropdown menu, 'fast folder find' or some such... However, it doesn't indicate which website folder is which.  All of the 'links' on the fast-folder-find are the same, they just give my main URL but no folder names.  And so I have a pretty tough time guessing which link leads to which folder!

I realize trying to explain this matter has been annoying to some persons here.  But it can't be any more exasperating than what I've been struggling with.   :roll: I've been debating about just deleting the entire Photos folder-subfolder arrangement and starting over again from scratch.  But with such a big folder, and such a slow connection as mine is, I reeeeeeeeeaaally don't want to do that.

And yes, there are image hosts out there that are fine, I've subbed onto 2 of them and I see that there are others.  However, they only allow just a few files to be chosen per upload.  I can't imagine trying to upload 500 of mine this way..... ouch!  This is why I would much prefer to FTP or 'batch' upload my files to my website, and then just put the remainder that don't 'fit' on there onto an image host service.

Again, apologies for the lengthy email.  But I really would like to find a solution to this problem w/o having to just delete the whole works & start over.
2  50Webs Services / Support questions (Free plan). / I finally found an image host that WORKS for me! on: August 30, 2007, 01:18:08 AM
Quote from: "monkey56657"
Provide the url to the 5mb file i will see what compression can be done...

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Will find & provide url ASAP.  File turned out to be 'only' 3 MB, btw.
3  General Forum / General chat. / PLZ- HLP on: August 29, 2007, 04:28:01 PM
Sorry 2 B a pest, but cn't fx ths prblm-

http://www.geocities.com/bloomin_aya55/ftp_prob1.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/bloomin_aya55/ftp_prob2.jpg
4  50Webs Services / Support questions (Free plan). / I finally found an image host that WORKS for me! on: August 29, 2007, 01:57:56 AM
Quote from: "hackrat"
Another file hoster I suggest for files is snapdrive.net

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Kewl, I'll look that one up.  I'm keeping an eye out for ease of use, nothing too complex... since I am none too talented!  :lol:

So anyhow.  If the access-denied prob persists into tomorrow, I suppose it could be I exceeded bandwidth usage, or something?  Been mucking around there all day, as I mentioned...  :roll:
5  50Webs Services / Support questions (Free plan). / I finally found an image host that WORKS for me! on: August 29, 2007, 01:17:33 AM
Quote from: "monkey56657"
Have u considered lowering the resolution of these images...or compressing further with jpg than currently done ?

5MB image is very big  :shock:

No images should need to be that large in size.

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IS there a good means of compressing an image further--and BTW, that image in question is a PNG file, a large 'stitch'--without losing picture quality??  That is the only one which is that big, I assure you... :oops:

Had some luck today (day off from work, good thing!) getting files copied over via FTP.  But when it suddenly refused to let me login again, I opted for uploading straight to the webspace, also zip filing, both of which took forever but did get the images moved.  All except for those few that are too large...which, as I say, will have to go onto my image hosting accounts.

NOW I'm stumped again... This evening I was doing ordinary uploading, creating some new folders, etc. when suddenly I'm getting all of these red "You don't have permission to upload in this folder."  WHY is this?? It's my folder, why suddenly am I not allowed to use it any more?? :cry:

Drat!!  I just want to get this big project finished so I can go on with the HTML tasks...  :x
6  50Webs Services / Support questions (Free plan). / I finally found an image host that WORKS for me! on: August 28, 2007, 03:53:32 PM
monkey56657 wrote:
there are better ways to make the transfer...asking mods on 50webs to relay the data may help....

if you can send the zip via ftp then it can be uploaded by someone...

perhaps some means of transfer that allows error checking ??

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OK, one thing I discovered was that the zip I tried to move into my 50webs account was too large, 16 MB, LOL. And that was only a portion of my image collection....oooooh dear.  So yes, I tried it again on HotLinksFiles and nothing happened. But, where there is a will, there is a way... I finally got all the smaller images into 50webs, hurrah. Then late last night I tried moving a group if big images (about 3/4 MB each) over to my HotLinksFiles acct. After a long, long, LONG wait (hey, I went to bed figuring 'It'll do something by morning!"), I discovered that only ONE of those 18 files had been copied over. I think they allow for 20 at a time, maybe more. But my pix won't transfer over! Waah.  I did find that I could copy ONE image at a time, but who wants to take a year doing that??

Well, OK, maybe if I just 'bag up' the remaining images that I can't place here, into a Zip folder, maybe I can get it to one of you mods and it can be moved into my HLF account?

The reason I chose HotLinksFiles is that they claim to keep your images 'forever,' no danger of having everything wiped out if you don't login for awhile...

'Error checking,' I would think one of the other ftp clients would have that; I've been using Internet Explorer's version and it's very basic, no frills whatsoever. It works, but I really liked Ipswitch better when I used that. More user friendly.
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Update:
Since HotLinksFiles was giving me grief (another problem was that every time I did manage to get one of my images to upload, the page would just go blank!--and I would have to return to the site via the search box.  GGRRR!!) I went looking for another image host with a similar high rating.  Decided to try FreeShare on for size.  They only allow you to upload 5 images at a time...BUT IT WORKS FOR ME.  WHOOO and HHOOOO.  :-D  Tense nail-biting moments while I waited to see what it would do...but the images did upload...and they even give a page of thumbnails plus all of the codes you might ever need, right at your fingertips.  AND, something very important to me, they claim to keep your images stored forever...which many places will not.  I should write them a review.  If there are still a few people out there like me with sloooooooow dialups and the accompanying woes, they should be aware of that site for their pix, it does work.

I will still have to use the HotLinks account for an image that turned out to be OVER 5 MB, I knew that 'stitch' was a big file but I didn't know it was that large.  And FreeShare won't take anything that big even from a registered user.

But....anyway....that is where my remaining imagery (what might not fit onto my 50webs accounts) will go.  I don't mind storing images here on the webspace, I can leave room for my HTML pages... I kinda like to have things 'handy' online and do as little switching around as possible.

Finally.  Light at the end of the long tunnel!  :-)

Now for the big job of changing all those many page links <sigh>
7  50Webs Services / Support questions (Free plan). / Image problems settled....I hope on: August 27, 2007, 11:20:33 PM
Quote from: "monkey56657"
there are better ways to make the transfer...asking mods on 50webs to relay the data may help....

if you can send the zip via ftp then it can be uploaded by someone...

perhaps some means of transfer that allows error checking ??

___________

OK, one thing I discovered was that the zip I tried to move into my 50webs account was too large, 16 MB, LOL.  And that was only a portion of my image collection....oooooh dear.  :oops:  So yes, I tried it again on HotLinksFiles and nothing happened.  But, where there is a will, there is a way... I finally got all the smaller images into 50webs, hurrah.  Then late last night I tried moving a group if big images (about 3/4 MB each) over to my HotLinksFiles acct. After a long, long, LONG wait (hey, I went to bed figuring 'It'll do something by morning!"), I discovered that only ONE of those 18 files had been copied over.  I think they allow for 20 at a time, maybe more.  But my pix won't transfer over! Waah.  :-(  I did find that I could copy ONE image at a time, but who wants to take a year doing that??  

Well, OK, maybe if I just 'bag up' the remaining images that I can't place here, into a Zip folder, maybe I can get it to one of you mods and it can be moved into my HLF account?

The reason I chose HotLinksFiles is that they claim to keep your images 'forever,' no danger of having everything wiped out if you don't login for awhile...

'Error checking,' I would think one of the other ftp clients would have that; I've been using Internet Explorer's version and it's very basic, no frills whatsoever.  It works, but I really liked Ipswitch better when I used that.  More user friendly.
8  50Webs Services / Support questions (Free plan). / Another quick question - i promise this is a short one! on: August 27, 2007, 11:06:35 PM
Quote from: "monkey56657"
hmm lots eh...  :?

on free plan my auto script does not work...but i can help transfer via ftp...


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OK, I might have to 'recruit' your aid, but I'm not sure yet whether I need you to help me FTP.  The reason being, everything is already copied into the Photos folder... But this particular folder is inside of another folder, also named Photos.  How that happened, I am not sure!  And in turn--it's like boxes inside of boxes?--but like I said, these are contained in yet another folder called by the name of my V Host.  So, I have sunandmoon.50webs.com housing another folder, also named sunandmoon.50webs.com,  :shock: which contains a folder named Photos, in which I somehow accidentally created a subfolder named Photos.  That last one contains all my photos.  But I don't need two of these.

The first thing I ought to do is to remove all the photos from the last subfolder and place them in the main Photos folder, rather than having one inside the other.  I don't really want to have my URL read as I said before, ......./Photos/Photos/filename.jpg.

It would be a lot simpler to envision, if I could get a screen shot in here to show what happened... I think it was just a silly mistake, but I can't seem to just copy & paste or drag & drop...  Kind of a stumper for me, really...
9  50Webs Services / Support questions (Free plan). / Another small question on: August 27, 2007, 04:31:46 PM
Does 50webs have an Editor page anywhere?  If so, I can't find it.....
10  50Webs Services / Support questions (Free plan). / Define 'permissions' pleeze? on: August 27, 2007, 04:25:16 PM
Quote from: "rosebud"
Quote from: "gifred"
Quote from: "monkey56657"
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cgi bin


actually there is no cgi bin ...not that i know of.... :lol:


Not sure if this is right, but I will make a stab at it.

Early on in the game people had actual shell accounts on a server that allowed them to run processes or executable scripts/programs.

As the web grew and security issues became more important, the concept of "cgi bins" was developed. Basically a quarantined directory where exectable scripts "had" to be kept. And actually running a server process itself was strickly verboten.

Now a days, cgi bins are far and few between, i haven't seen one in a long time. My guess is that some of the security issues have been resolved and your account directory itself is granted executable permissions ( this varies on different servers. One of the servers I use allows me to assign different permissions to all directories within my account, as well as unique permissions to every file within that directory. It would be a shell account if I could run a process an/or install my own server side programs. lol).


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Really, that was kind of...well, the foggy idea that I had in the first place, the area where mysterious 'processes' were executed.  And so I thought it was a bit odd that my friend was referring to the subdomain 'empty' area that she reserved for my use, as the cgi bin.  But, knowing her & realizing I'd best not quibble, I got into the habit of calling that area the cgi bin.

Another question is begged here:  What ARE 'permissions' anyway??  See, this is what happens when you start out with...yes, I will confess now that I started out with geocities (WAY down on the reviewers' listings, by the way!) and have never had any real 'training' in webmastering beyond the basics.  But when I started, I didn't know that there was anything 'out there' beyond Geocities, Angelfire, Tripod, and the likes of that. :oops:
11  50Webs Services / Support questions (Free plan). / Another quick question - i promise this is a short one! on: August 27, 2007, 04:19:17 PM
Quote from: "XYLEM"
Register the new vhost with the correct string,
move the content, then remove the first already empty vhost.

Regards
Gazurkoff

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Okay, that should take care of the 2d one that has no contents as yet.   Shocked  However... :oops:  about the first one that does have lots of content now...on FTP it's showing the name of the Vhost, with a subfolder branching off with the same name...then this branches off into the Photos section, which ALSO branches off to another Photos section!  I'm not sure how to control all of these subfolders of subfolders of subfolders.  It would be easier to explain if I could show you a quick image here, but that takes so long... But, I need to start getting my page URL's lined up, and I don't want to have to create URL's saying, http://blahblah/same blahblah/Photos/Photos/image name.jpg.  So you see what I'm getting at... heeeeeeeeelllllppp
12  50Webs Services / Support questions (Free plan). / Another quick question - i promise this is a short one! on: August 25, 2007, 04:59:56 PM
I made some errors and I'd like to edit the name of my Virtual Host, but I don't see any way to fix that, and i checked in the FAQ also.   Is there any way to do this??
13  50Webs Services / Support questions (Free plan). / Another Noobie Needing HELP!!! --FTP probs mainly on: August 25, 2007, 04:34:33 PM
Quote from: "gifred"
Quote from: "monkey56657"
Quote
cgi bin


actually there is no cgi bin ...not that i know of.... :lol:


Not sure if this is right, but I will make a stab at it.

Early on in the game people had actual shell accounts on a server that allowed them to run processes or executable scripts/programs.

As the web grew and security issues became more important, the concept of "cgi bins" was developed. Basically a quarantined directory where exectable scripts "had" to be kept. And actually running a server process itself was strickly verboten.

Now a days, cgi bins are far and few between, i haven't seen one in a long time. My guess is that some of the security issues have been resolved and your account directory itself is granted executable permissions ( this varies on different servers. One of the servers I use allows me to assign different permissions to all directories within my account, as well as unique permissions to every file within that directory. It would be a shell account if I could run a process an/or install my own server side programs. lol).


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Really, that was kind of...well, the foggy idea that I had in the first place, the area where mysterious 'processes' were executed.  And so I thought it was a bit odd that my friend was referring to the subdomain 'empty' area that she reserved for my use, as the cgi bin.  But, knowing her & realizing I'd best not quibble, I got into the habit of calling that area the cgi bin.

Another question is begged here:  What ARE 'permissions' anyway??  See, this is what happens when you start out with...yes, I will confess now that I started out with geocities (WAY down on the reviewers' listings, by the way!) and have never had any real 'training' in webmastering beyond the basics.  But when I started, I didn't know that there was anything 'out there' beyond Geocities, Angelfire, Tripod, and the likes of that. :oops:
14  50Webs Services / Support questions (Free plan). / Image problems settled....I hope on: August 25, 2007, 04:25:47 PM
Quote from: "XYLEM"
Image problems? what exactly is the problem ?

Regards
Gazurkoff

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Oh, the storage, and protection, of hundreds of image files, and getting all of my ducks in a row, so to speak, LOL.  Now this morning, I tried to start zip-filing over to the new image hosting server (HotLinks-Files i think is the name) that I signed up with (and expect to use as you suggested, linking images there to my site at 50webs when it is set up).  Just an ordinary, run-of-the-mill zip folder, about 16 MB, and they apparently allow zips as big as 50 MB.  Long story short, NOTHING happened.  It looked like the folder was being copied over...but I waited a full 90 minutes and the page was still just sitting there. I mean no indication that the 'job' was finishing up.  So, I canceled the job.  Probably what's wrong is my slow & yes, unstable connection.   :cry:

Soooooooooo....what I will do next is just FTP (when possible!) my folders over to 50webs and whenever that fills up (and you can be sure it will, as I am a serious photographer), THEN I shall try using the image-host site again, but just upload a few images at a time, maybe then I can get it to actually function for me...

Anywho.  Live and learn.  Having a slow dialup teaches you patience, longsuffering and character!  And as a friend of mine says, 'What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger,' which I've adopted as a sort of Mantra.  Shocked
15  50Webs Services / Support questions (Free plan). / Image problems settled....I hope on: August 24, 2007, 05:37:11 PM
OK, I just signed up for TWO accounts at a goodlooking hosting site that has got a very high rating, even better than Photobucket.  I like the fact that this new site will keep your images stored forever, no danger of losing everything in 30 days or 60 days and having to re-upload the whole lot.  That would be awful for me, as I have so many images for both my sites!  So this feature is seriously important.  And maybe it will help to simplify things! Shocked
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